Thank you for that, I was very interested in hearing Lisa's opinion on the vaccines and on the "talkback" host's very rude dismissal of what she had to say. Also interesting was the part before Lisa's call where the current incumbent (is that the right word?) had been caught out on a lie. I am not an änti-vaxxer" per se, I had all the immunisations when I was little and so did my children, and my grandchildren. But I will not have the covid vaccine, even if I get put in prison for refusing it.